When the issue of Ukraine was brought up at a policy meeting,
Ciaramella mentioned aid to Ukraine. He became visibly upset, the
official recounted, when he was told that Trump would review Ukraine
policy and that it would likely not be the same as President Barack
Obama’s. “He kind of rolled his eyes and went, 'Hmph!' He didn't leave
the room, but it was pretty clear that he thought that we were wrong and
he was right. ... I never trusted him with anything after that."
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