Beltway Republican David Winston for Roll Call wants 2016 to have been about the economy when it was about illegal immigration

 

This slight-of-hand reasoning is how Trump got co-opted by the GOP in 2017 in the first place, and it's how they're going to co-opt him again should he win. Beltway Republicans love, love, love immigration, so the top issue cannot, must not, be that.

 In 2016, the economy was the top issue, just as today . . ..

Here.

Trump's controversial 2015-2016 message was immigration, immigration, immigration for 14 straight months, until Steve Bannon and Kellyanne Conway got a hold of him in August 2016.

Trump barely won.

Trump's unfavorables were indeed high, but not because Hillary drove them there as Winston says. People forget that Trump did that all by himself. He ended up underperforming John McCain 2008 in 12 states and DC.

Trump was an insurgent candidate who exploited division within the GOP to capture the nomination. The 2016 primary popular vote for Cruz, Rubio, and Kasich exceeded Trump's 13.3 million.

That division has subsided, but it has never gone away, and Winston is one of the other side's smooth operators who still want to change the subject to anything else but the issue staring everyone in the face, from working class Americans now competing with 8 million new illegals for wages to upper class suburban denizens of Massachusetts being told to cope with hordes of new students in public schools they never designed to accommodate this flood.

That's the issue confronting voters, not Trump's Kangaroo Kourt Konviction, about which David wrings his hands.

If there's any vengeance in American politics about which we should be upset in 2024, Joe Biden's open southern border is surely it.

A purely political prosecution of Trump: Hillary underperformed Obama 2008 in 39 states in 2016 because she was a terrible candidate but what REALLY won it for Trump was paying Stormy Daniels $130,000 in hush money

 

 Prosecutors claim that Trump, by falsely recording the reimbursements to Cohen as legal expenses, had criminally covered up their true nature, which was to protect his then-reeling campaign from losing the 2016 election to Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton.

CNBC here.

Everyone forgets that the Russians-tampering-with-voting-machines lunacy began in the Hillary camp in 2016, not in the Trump camp in 2020

 The group ... believes they’ve found persuasive evidence that results in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania may have been manipulated or hacked. ... the suspicious pattern merits an independent review — especially in light of the fact that the Obama White House has accused the Russian government of hacking the Democratic National Committee. 

Here. 

Hillary lost because blacks didn't turn out in Milwaukee, Detroit, and Philadelphia.  She underperformed Obama 2008 in 39 states.

The Russians didn't put the stink on her campaign.

She did that all by herself.

 

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Democrats continue to ignore the revulsion Democrat voters felt for Hillary

It's not like they didn't have information about this in 2008 when primary voters ended up picking Obama over Hillary in the first place.

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[N]ew information shows that Clinton had a much bigger problem with voters who had supported President Barack Obama in 2012 but backed Trump four years later. ... Turning out the base is not good enough, the data suggest. 

But Hillary didn't turn out the base in 2016 anymore than she did in 2008. Every single story from the Democrats ignores that Democrats revolted against Hillary in 2016 just as they did in 2008. Just as they did in 1993. 

Just look at the top vote-getters by state since 2004.

Trump 2016 was the top-vote-getter in AL, AZ, AR, FL, GA, IN, KY, LA, MO, MT, NC, ND, SC, TN, TX, WV, and WY for a total of 26.4 million votes. Seventeen states, two of them swing states.

But eight years ago Obama 2008 is still today the top-vote-getter in CT, DE, HI, IL, IA, ME, MI, MN, NH, NJ, NM, NY, OH, OR, PA, RI, VT and WI for a total of 28 million votes. Eighteen states.

Hillary 2016 was the top-vote-getter only in CA, CO, DC, MD, MA, NV and VA for a total of 16.6 million votes, over half of which were in California. Six states and DC.

Obama 2012 was top-vote-getter in WA, Romney 2012 in ID and UT, McCain 2008 in AL, MS and OK, and Bush 2004 in KS, NE and SD.

That's all fifty states plus DC.

Trump is somewhat weak with his base in 8 states going back to 2004, but Hillary is far weaker with hers.

That's the story which has been ignored over and over again since election night. Hillary underperformed Obama 2012 in 34 states, but Obama 2008 in 39.

They weren't with her. Ever.

Of course Trump had the biggest electoral win since Reagan because no one expected the Hillary defections

Just as America turned its back on incumbent Democrat Jimmy Carter in 1980, so did America to Hillary Clinton, heir apparent, in 2016.

Trump was expected right up to the eve of the election to lose by between two to four points, and did end up losing by two points, except that he won enough states to win in the Electoral College 306-232 before faithless electors had their say.

The magnitude of that was overwhelming because it was unexpected. We even had people predicting Trump would win the popular vote but end up losing to Hillary in the Electoral College.

It turned out exactly the opposite. Every honest person who stayed up until three in the morning watching it all unfold knows how unexpected was Trump's win in the Electoral College. Everyone on our side expected the worst . . . a decisive Hillary victory.

The fact remains: Hillary underperformed Obama 2008 in 39 states because the people disliked her more than they disliked Trump.

And that's quite an accomplishment.

White Privileged Women's March in DC can't face it that Hillary underperformed with women

White privileged women have only themselves to blame for Hillary's loss to Donald Trump. Their candidate didn't appeal to women unlike themselves.

Hillary underperformed Obama 2012 with all women by one point, black women by 2 points, Latino women by 8 points, and unmarried women by 5 points. The only groups of women with which Hillary outperformed Obama 2012 were WHITE WOMEN and MARRIED WOMEN, in other words with the PRIVILEGED class of women which has the luxury of time to knit pink hats and the surplus cash to travel to one of America's most expensive cities to bathe in each other's estrogen. 

Revulsion Election update: Hillary underperformed Obama 2008 in 39 states by 5.16 million votes

This updates my look at 2016 candidate underperformance relative to 2008 from almost three weeks ago. The total picture for Hillary improved by about 440,000 votes in the interim, or about 11,000 votes per state on average, but doesn't change the conclusion. Hillary was far and away more revolting to the voters in 2016 than was Trump. Hillary still lags Obama 2008 by 3.7 million votes net and Obama 2012 by 74,000 votes. For his part Donald Trump has surpassed George W. Bush 2004 by 940,000 votes with 62.98 million votes, the most for any Republican in any presidential contest.

Hillary 2016 underperformed Obama 2008 in:

MI by 603,000 votes (and lost to Trump by 11,000)

OH by 546,000 (lost by 447,000)

MO by 371,000

PA by 350,000 (lost by 45,000)

IN by 341,000

IL by 328,000

WI by 294,000 (lost by 22,000)

NY by 257,000

TN by 216,000

MN by 205,000 (won by only 45,000)

IA by 175,000 (lost by 147,000)

KY by 123,000 

WV by 115,000

CT by 100,000

*KS by 88,000

*NM by 87,000 (won by only 65,000)

AL by 83,000

*OK by 82,000

*MS by 70,000

*NJ by 67,000

ME by 64,000 (won by only 22,000)

HI by 59,000

MT by 54,000

SD by 54,000

NE by 49,000

ND by 47,000

ID by 46,000

RI by 44,000

AR by 42,000

*VT by 40,000

NH by 36,000 (won by only 3,000)

OR by 35,000

WY by 27,000

DE by 19,000

*UT by 17,000

*WA by 8,000

*AK by 8,000

SC by 7,000

LA by 3,000.

That's 5.16 million former Democrat votes alienated from Hillary Clinton in 2016 in 39 states, 57% of which came from the 8 Great Lakes states (2.924 million), according to the latest numbers this morning, almost six weeks since Election 2016.

Trump underperformed John McCain in only 12 states and DC and by just 792,000 votes, 67% of which were in California alone:

In CA by 527,000 votes

*UT by 81,000

*AK by 31,000

*KS by 29,000

*NM by 27,000

*MS by 24,000

MA by 18,000

MD by 17,000

*NJ by 12,000

*OK by 11,000

*WA by 7,000

*VT by 4,000

DC by 4,000.

*nine states where both 2016 candidates underperformed their 2008 counterparts 

People found Hillary so revolting in 2016 she underperformed Obama 2008 in 39 states

Count 'em.

Hillary underperformed Obama in:

NY by 655,000 votes

MI by 604,000

OH by 549,000

MO by 387,000

PA by 381,000

IL by 336,000

IN by 335,000

WI by 295,000

TN by 218,000

MN by 206,000

IA by 175,000

KY by 123,000

WV by 115,000

CT by 101,000

KS by 100,000

AL by 87,000

NM by 87,000

OK by 82,000

NJ by 78,000

MS by 71,000

ME by 70,000

HI by 59,000

MT by 54,000

SD by 54,000

NE by 50,000

ND by 47,000

ID by 46,000

RI by 44,000

AR by 42,000

VT by 40,000

NH by 36,000

WY by 27,000

DE by 19,000

UT by 17,000

OR by 11,000

WA by 10,000

AK by 8,000

SC by 7,000

LA by 3,000

That's 5.6 million former Democrat votes alienated from Hillary Clinton in 2016 in 39 states, 60% of which came from the 8 Great Lakes states (3.361 million), according to the latest numbers this morning, three weeks after Election 2016.

Trump underperformed John McCain in 13 states and DC by 1.1 million votes, 63% of which were in California:

In CA by 727,000 votes
NY by 113,000
UT by 81,000
KS by 44,000
AK by 31,000
NM by 27,000
MA by 26,000
MS by 25,000
MD by 25,000
NJ by 18,000
OK by 11,000
WA by 9,000
VT by 4,000
DC by 4,000

Rebecca Traister imagines Hillary supporters got out the vote for her, but they didn't: 5.1 million former Obama voters thought she wasn't worth it

Maybe she should blame Obama's base.

Here:

The peanut-butter gobblers are keen to unleash their righteous rightness, their furious convictions, on the Javits Center crowd — the wealthy donors, sure, but also Mothers of the Movement, the reproductive rights and women’s leaders, the thousands of supporters who had canvassed and phone-banked and gotten out the vote and driven souls to the polls. ... [T]he objects of the vitriol from the left, dirtbag and otherwise, are the hardworking heart of the Democratic Party, now the resistance: the grandmothers who left their houses every morning to get out the vote; the people who took buses and carloads of volunteers to knock on doors and ring buzzers and make endless phone calls; the Black Lives Matter activists who protest the killing of their children and targeting of their communities; the women and men who provide reproductive-health access, even as the government works to roll back that access; the abortion rights and gay rights and criminal justice reform advocates who didn’t write off Hillary Clinton, but instead asked her to be better.

Revulsion Election update: Trump got lucky, underperformed Romney by 1.4 million votes, McCain by 450,000 votes

Hillary underperformed Obama 2012 by 6.2 million, Obama 2008 by . . . 9.8 million.

Democrats elected Trump by not voting for Hillary.