Showing posts with label Bush 41. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Bush 41. Show all posts

Monday, March 3, 2025

The Current Big Lie: There was an agreement in 1991 when the Soviet Union fell apart that prevented former Eastern bloc countries from joining NATO

 

‘There was no promise not to enlarge NATO’ - Harvard Law School

Mar 16, 2022 By Jeff Neal

When President George H.W. Bush sat down with Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev to negotiate the peaceful end of the Cold War and the reunification of Germany, former Under Secretary of State Robert Zoellick ’81 was in the room where it happened.

During the 1990 summit, Zoellick says President Gorbachev accepted the idea of German unification within the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, based on the principle that every country should freely choose its own alliances.

“I was in those meetings, and Gorbachev has [also] said there was no promise not to enlarge NATO,” Zoellick recalls. Soviet Foreign Minister, Eduard Shevardnadze, later president of Georgia, concurred, he says. Nor does the treaty on Germany’s unification include a limit on NATO enlargement. Those facts have undermined one of Russian President Vladimir Putin’s justifications for invading Ukraine — that the United States had agreed that former Warsaw Pact nations would never become part of the North Atlantic security alliance.

Zoellick, a former deputy and undersecretary of state, deputy White House chief of staff, U.S. trade representative, and World Bank president, shared his recollections about the Cold War’s end and its ties to the ongoing war in Ukraine as part of a broader conversation with Harvard Law Today about the 75th anniversary of the Truman Doctrine, an American foreign policy aimed at containing Soviet expansion following World War II.

He is the author of “America in the Word: A History of U.S. Diplomacy and Foreign Policy.” An alumnus of both Harvard Law School and Harvard Kennedy School, where he is a senior fellow at the Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, Zoellick believes Putin’s false claim about NATO enlargement is part of a disinformation campaign by the former KGB agent to mask his true intentions.

Zoellick vividly recalls the White House meeting he attended nearly three decades ago in which Bush asked Gorbachev if he agreed with the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe principle that nations are free to ally with others as they see fit. When Gorbachev said yes, he says, the Soviet leader’s “own colleagues at the table visibly separated themselves.”

Sensing the import of the possible breakthrough, he says a colleague at the meeting, Robert Blackwill, sent him a note checking what they had heard and asking if they should ask Bush to repeat the question. “Gorbachev agreed again,” Zoellick recalls, to the principle that Germany could choose to enter NATO.

“The reality was that, in 1989-90, most people, and certainly the Soviets, weren’t focusing on whether the Eastern European countries would become part of NATO,” Zoellick says. Knowing Soviet and Russian diplomacy, he believes Moscow would have demanded assurances in writing if it believed the U.S. had made such a promise. And even in 1996, when President Bill Clinton welcomed former Warsaw Pact nations to join NATO, he says that, “[o]ne of the German diplomats involved told me that as they discussed the enlargement with the Russians, no Russian raised the argument that there had been a promise not to enlarge.”

But if the West never gave the promise Putin has used to explain his decision to invade Ukraine, what does Zoellick think motivates the Russian president’s decision to inflict death and destruction on one of Russia’s nearest neighbors? “Putin does not see Ukraine as an independent and sovereign state,” he says. “He has a view of Russian history where the Rus [the medieval ancestors of the people who came to form Russia, Belarus, and Ukraine] began in Kyiv. He believes that they are all Russians, living in a greater Russia. And I think at age 69, Putin feels that this is a question not only of Russian history, but his place in Russian history.”

Zoellick says that when Putin’s earlier attacks in the Crimea and country’s eastern regions failed to halt Ukraine’s drift towards the West, the Russian leader believed he had no other choice but to invade. “That’s his motivation. And I think we need to be aware that he’s going to double down. The resilience and resolve of the Ukrainian people to resist has been a surprise to him and everybody else. I don’t think he’s going to ultimately be successful. In addition to today’s brutal battles, Russia faces a difficult occupation and insurgency, even if it can seize cities and territory.”

The experienced diplomat also credits Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky with rallying the Ukrainian people by refusing to flee Kyiv and through adept use of social media and language.

“We’re seeing that the skills that he developed as an entertainer and a communicator can be used in different ways, just as Ronald Reagan did,” he says. “It does raise a concern that, if something happens to Zelensky, what will that do to morale? Will he be a martyr or will his loss break the public will?”

Zoellick also notes that, as the war in Ukraine has garnered the world’s attention, many of the questions being asked today about the West’s relationship with Russia are similar to those he had dealt with at the end of the Cold War, including “Russia’s sense of whether it feels like a great power or threatened by NATO … those are the issues that are at very much at play in dealing with Ukraine.”

“Can Russia forge peaceful, constructive ties with the West?” he asks. “Failed economic and political reforms left Russia behind. Its economy depends on energy production. Putin played off public frustrations, but many Russians don’t want war and isolation.”

When thinking about global diplomacy and the factors that might have led to the Russian invasion, Zoellick harkens back to a comment made by his boss for eight years, James Baker, who served both as secretary of state and the treasury, as well as White House chief of staff: “As you address the problems of one era, you’re often planting the seeds for the next set of challenges. History doesn’t stop.”

More than 30 years after the fall of the Berlin Wall, Zoellick says the legacy of decisions made at the end of the Cold War are echoing throughout Europe today: “Would we keep NATO alive? Would it enlarge into Central and Eastern Europe? How far? What would be the effects on Russia of its loss of empire?”

“That leaves the question of whether the U.S. could have avoided Russia’s turn,” he says. The answer, he believes, depended on Russia’s choices. “Certainly, we wouldn’t have wanted East and West Germany to remain divided.” The related questions are many: What if Eastern European countries had been barred from joining NATO and therefore remained, like Ukraine, outside the western security umbrella? And how would they react to the Russian threat and being left again as “lands between” Germany and Russia? The U.S. and Europe, he notes, offered Russia partnerships, but Russia felt humiliated by the loss of its empire.

“I was the U.S. negotiator for German unification,” he says. “We wanted to make sure that a democratic Germany was unified in NATO. I don’t think anybody would think that’s a bad idea today. And if anything, we’re now seeing Germany stepping up to a security role for NATO and the European Union.”

In 1989-90, Zoellick was also focused on the idea that Poland — long subject to invasions by Russia and Germany — should be able to eventually join NATO. He made sure that the treaty on German unification kept that possibility open. “Given Putin’s behavior, can you imagine what the effect would be on Poland today if it weren’t in NATO? I think it’s wise to have Poland and Germany on the same side. The Baltic countries were a tougher choice for NATO, not because they don’t deserve the security, but they’re very hard to defend.” Nevertheless, he adds, because the Baltic states are now NATO members, he believes we must “take serious steps to defend them from both direct and hybrid threats.”

Ultimately, he believes supporting Ukraine economically and supplying arms for self-defense, rather than opening the potential for eventual NATO membership, would have been a better approach than the one the West has taken in recent years.

“If NATO gives a security guarantee, it has to mean it,” he says. “It has to be serious about providing deterrence under Article Five of the North Atlantic Alliance treaty. … I support Ukraine’s economic reforms and its democracy, [but] I doubted that the American people were ultimately willing to fight for Ukraine. The worst thing to do was to suggest Ukraine might join NATO, but without a serious pathway to membership.”

The U.S., he adds, “isn’t going to defend everybody all the time, everywhere in the world; we have to know what we will and won’t defend. Having said that, I think the Obama and Trump administrations erred by not giving more military support to Ukraine. I believe that we should help the Ukrainians defend themselves. But those are the exact issues debated today.”

https://hls.harvard.edu/today/there-was-no-promise-not-to-enlarge-nato/

Monday, April 1, 2024

The Forehead still thinks Bill Clinton would have beat Bush 41 to a pulp had it not been for Democrat H. Ross Perot lol

And Democrat RFK Jr and progressive Shanahan may keep Biden from beating Trump.

 

Sunday, December 10, 2023

Donald Trump 2023 is Bill Clinton 1992/1996 winning with a plurality because of third party candidates in Wall Street Journal poll


 

West's alignment with Hamas and Kennedy's openly stated purpose as a spoiler candidate combine to make them chiefly candidacies hurting the incumbent Joe Biden, but everything depends on them getting on the ballot in enough places.

Perot bled votes away from the incumbent George H. W. Bush in 1992, and from Republican Bob Dole in 1996, resulting in Clinton winning each contest but not with 50% of the popular vote.

 

  • Trump 37, Biden 31, Kennedy 8, West 3, Manchin 3, Stein 2, Mapstead 1
  • Sunday, September 18, 2022

    Once again, it was the idiot liberal Republican George H. W. Bush who advanced the anti-capitalist Democrat global warming agenda

     . . . the Inflation Reduction Act was signed by President Biden earlier this summer. It had been thirty years and sixty-five days since President George H.W. Bush signed the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change in Rio de Janeiro.

    Here.

    George also spawned the redundant hate crime legislation, huge increases to LEGAL immigration, wheel-chair access at every intersection's crosswalk among other expensive accommodations for the ambulatory handicapped, who in 2016 are fewer than 7% of the population, an unchastened Saddam Hussein, and READ MY LIPS . . . NEW TAXES.

    Oh yeah. He also literally spawned the guy who didn't keep America safe on 911 and gave us the expensive nation-building wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and the insidious Patriot Act, but don't get me started.

    Everything BUSH has been terrible for America, which is saying a lot when everything Democrat always is anyway.  

    Friday, May 21, 2021

    Joe Biden, the Puritan Catholic, is as bad as the libertarian Justin Amash ever was, making the perfect the enemy of the good, but sillier

    President Biden: "Every Time We Let Hate Flourish, We Make A Lie Of Who We Are As A Nation"

    "We're the United States of America. We're unique among all nations. We are uniquely a product of a document. Not an ethnicity, not a religion, not a geography, of a document," President Biden says. "Every time we're silent, every time we let hate flourish, we make a lie of who we are as a nation. I mean it literally. We can not let the very foundation of this country continue to be eaten away."

    This stupid, futile hate crime business was started by George H. W. Bush.

    You might as well outlaw human nature and roll out the guillotines.

    Hair on fire fundamentalism about the Declaration of Independence is no different than about the Constitution. The only thing Joe Biden is proving is that the left has its own strutting American exceptionalist fool, too.

    "Somebody, somewhere had a bad thought. America is finished!"


    Saturday, March 27, 2021

    LOL, Mittens joins Republican squishes Bush 41, Gerald Ford and John McCain in receiving the JFK "Profile in Courage" award

    Story.

    Mitt Romney voted to impeach Trump.

    Bush 41 raised taxes after promising not to ("Read my lips").

    Gerald Ford pardoned Nixon.

    John McCain sponsored campaign finance reform legislation in 2002, which was partially overturned in Citizens United in 2010.

    Romney's award is for Trump's first impeachment, not the second, for which Romney also voted, but I guess the six Republicans who joined Romney the second time are just chopped liver. That took took no courage whatsoever, apparently.

    Sunday, December 29, 2019

    In 1980 and 1984 ignorant young conservatives voted for Ronald Reagan never expecting his 1986 immigration amnesty nor Bush 41's opening of the legal immigration floodgates

    Peak Boomer 1957 turned 30 in 1987 and didn't have a clue about anything anymore than Gen X does now. @GodCloseMyEyes is blind. Racial anxiety today was caused by libertarian immigration policies put into place by Reagan and Bush, flooding the country with foreigners. We were ignorant as ignorant could be when we voted for these fools. The '60s riots were already ancient history.











    Tuesday, December 17, 2019

    President Trump could easily veto these spending bills and get spending compromises from Congress, but won't because he's a wimp

    The narrow majorities of Democrats in the House and Republicans in the Senate mean there would be great difficulty achieving 2/3 majorities to override the veto except for the most necessary spending, which means Trump has the upper hand.

    President Trump is in the catbird seat when it comes to spending, but he does NOTHING. All he does is veto the occasional "Joint Resolution", which is meaningless to the taxpayer and in the same class as conservatism in this country, which has again been reduced to this or that irritable mental gesture.

    Donald Trump is a complete and utter fool who knows nothing about the power he has.

    Ann Coulter was right to say Trump has replaced Bush 41 as biggest wimp ever to serve as president.
     

    Wednesday, July 24, 2019

    In sharp contrast to Donald Trump Boris Johnson fired everybody upon taking office, a sign he actually might succeed


    A "brutal cull" not seen in 60 years.

    Bush 41 did the same and ultimately failed because he betrayed Ronald Reagan, so we'll see, now won't we?

    Thursday, July 4, 2019

    Tuesday, May 7, 2019

    Trump's popularity position suggests he's re-electable, but don't forget how Bush 41 utterly blew it

    Ahead of Obama, Reagan and Carter at this point in their presidencies, only Carter wasn't re-elected.

    If liberals had any brains, or principles, they'd crucify Trump over illegal immigration just as conservatives crucified Bush 41 over taxes, but they have neither brains nor principles. Bush 41 proves you can go from stellar to defeated in little over a year, but Trump, as old Republicans keep reminding us, is no Bush 41. 

    Thursday, April 25, 2019

    Biden is using Heather Heyer's 2017 death in Virginia like Bush 41 used Willie Horton in 1988 . . .

    . . . only it's just to win the Democrat primary, not the general against Trump.

    Desperate times for Democrats call for desperate measures.

    Sunday, March 10, 2019

    We are into Trump's third year as president and Ingraham Angle is still blaming policy failures on Obama holdovers

    When exactly is Trump going to become president of the United States? After 2020? We don't have time for the training wheels to come off.

    Maybe Trump's policy failures on immigration are HIS FAULT. Blaming Obama holdovers is ridiculous when Bush 41 cleaned house on accession by firing all the Reagan administration holdovers OVERNIGHT.

    This reminds me of nothing so much as the Limbaugh Theorem, not holding the president accountable for his own policies, except now Republicans are doing it.

    Trump is doing nothing because that's the way he wants it. It's politics, not policy, and for playing politics with the nation's integrity and security, for that alone he shouldn't be president right now, let alone in 2020.

    Trump is every bit the scoundrel now his past life says he always was.

    Taxpayers fund commercial flights for illegal immigrants