VIPSX, nominal return
Inception 6/29/2000 to August 31, 2023: 4.43% per annum
SPX, average nominal return, dividends fully reinvested
June 2000 through August 2023: 6.90% per annum (4.93% without dividend reinvestment)
VIPSX, nominal return
Inception 6/29/2000 to August 31, 2023: 4.43% per annum
SPX, average nominal return, dividends fully reinvested
June 2000 through August 2023: 6.90% per annum (4.93% without dividend reinvestment)
Average real return per annum from $SPX, dividends fully reinvested:
Return for VBMFX, Vanguard's Total Bond Market Index Fund, investor shares, closed to new investors, inception December 1986-December 2022 per annum:
5.08%.
Return for S&P 500, average nominal, dividends fully reinvested, December 1986-December 2022 per annum:
10.28%.
Return for VWESX, Vanguard's Long-Term Investment Grade Bond Fund, inception July 1973-December 2022:
7.48%.
Return for S&P 500, average nominal, dividends fully reinvested, July 1973-December 2022:
10.61%.
Safe havens aren't supposed to do this.
Long term return for VWESX since inception in 1973 near the end of 2018 reached north of 8%.
In 2022 ytd return is -27.28%.
The whole spectrum of bonds as represented by VBTLX is down ytd 14.79%.
Traditional investors with a 60/40 portfolio are down over 20% through yesterday because stocks and bonds both are falling.
Cash is king again.
The TOP, do you hear me, was in already last November.
As of May 2022 real return has pulled back all the way to 4.14%.
We truly live in a new period of suck.
Some are calling this a dot-com-like bubble "burst".
Jeremy Grantham thinks a 40% decline is in the offing.
That burst happened gradually, actually, from August 2000 to February 2003, more like an old balloon slowly deflating in the corner of the room under a table months after the party had ended.
On an average basis, the S&P 500 fell from 2471.50 in August 2000 to 1314.31 in February 2003, in March 2022 dollars. That 1157.19 point drop amounted to a drop of 46.82%.
Before climbing to the spectacular heights we know today, the S&P 500 had another appointment with more bad news, unfortunately, in March 2009, achieving an even lower level than February 2003.
In March 2022 dollars, the S&P 500 bottomed in March 2009, again on an average basis, at 1023.36. That was 1448.14 points from 2471.50 in August 2000, a drop of 58.59%.
That was quite a long process, a very
bad, no good, rotten almost a decade for stocks. Real per annum return August
2000 through March 2009 averaged -8.14%.
Many children watched their parents lose everything, including the house.
Those February 2003 and March 2009 type of events must be recognized as within the realm of real possibility even today.
4796.56 minus 46.82% would put the S&P 500 at 2551.
Minus 58.59% . . . 1986.
Not saying it will happen. Not saying it's even probable. Just possible, because it has happened before.
Smart investors are ready for the possible.
The index is down 18.19% from the all-time-high tonight.
CNBC, here.
S&P 500, average real return per annum, dividends fully reinvested:
August 2000 through April 2022, 21 years, 8 months . . . 4.6%;
The 21 years, 8 months previous to that, December 1978 through August 2000 . . . 12.35%.
At 4.6% it takes about 15.5 years to double your money, at 12.35% just under 6 years, which means under current circumstances you haven't yet doubled your money twice, whereas previously you would have doubled it 3.6 times.
The stellar real returns to the August 2000 top have been cut down since then from 12.35% to 8.41%. How long will it be before they are cut back to 6.44%, the long term real return from January 1871 to December 1978?
The odds are not very long.
Those stellar returns of the second half of the 20th century are an artifact of The Great Depression lows. To achieve them again will require another one.
Safety check, Vern.
Average per annum return of 4.77% has been 26% off the long term historical return from 1871 and over 61% off the immediately preceding 21.5 years beginning in February 1979. The Great Reagan Bull didn't even begin until 1982.
The secular bear continues.
Average per annum real return from the S&P 500 in the last 20 years has underperformed the 100+ years up to the beginning of the Reagan era by 36.8%.
Don't even begin to THINK return has compared with the era of the Reagan bull. This isn't a bull market, let alone a normally performing market.
Remember, this is real return, not nominal.